The MEGA Live Event July 23rd, 2021 Tulips & Honey. This article is kept continuously updated as needed. Have women not been given a part in The Great Commission from Jesus? Neil knows much more about New Testament studies than I do, but I'm not sure how far forward we can go with the New Testament, given that most of its writers believed their world was about to pass away. When a choice you make or an incident happens that will from that moment define some aspect of your life! If false teachers and their followers would simply repent and believe and obey Scripture, there would be no more division in the Body. One example that best showcases Priscillas penchant for eisegesis and poor hermeneutics can be found in this promotional video for her study,One in a Million: 0:46-This same God was supposed to be speaking to me, teaching to me, making Himself relevant to mein the regular rhythms of my everyday living. 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Since you havent had a chance to question Priscilla about what she was talking about here (or maybe it was revealed in this Bible study? Like The Gospel Coalition, CARM, Tim Challies, etc?) You do not want to get rid of fear entirely. All of the resources and links Ive included are from credible sources (The disclaimer at the top of the list simply means I have not read everything ever written by every single resource Ive listed. You could choose to simply pick up your Bible and study it. I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. Matthew 6:9-13. 3 Tests Of Plagiarism: Do Your Sermons Pass Them. What is certain is that Paul, in saying, "do not go beyond what is written," was not teaching sola scriptura. Thats good, but that doesnt change the fact that neither Beth nor Priscilla turn down speaking events that are open to both men and women. 1. I run into you everywhere man YouTube, Twitter, and now here lol. 1 Samuel 30: 6 And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David encouraged himself in the LORD his I dont follow TGC any more. My exact words were: I knew she was his daughter, but Im completely unfamiliar with him or his doctrine. Since I made that comment, Ive seen several endorsements of Priscilla Shirer and her materials by Tony Evans, so I guess that tells us his perspective and the fact that hes not very discerning. Bible Verses about 'Beyond'. I KNOW this original post is over a year old. One Sunday, the preacher went on for a little longer than normal. Sermon by Rick Crandall I attended a conference with Beth Moore, whom I know you have accused also of teaching and preaching to men, and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. A large chunk of the New Testament (Matthew 7:15-23, 2 Peter 2, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, the book of Jude, and many other passages) is devoted to warning people against false teaching. There's more to my answer than you might think. In Japan there was a man in the imperial orchestra couldnt play a note. Heres an example of Priscilla preaching to men and yoking with a false teacher as she preaches the Sunday sermon at Joel Osteens Lakewood Church: Priscilla teaches Christians to listen for Gods voice in an unbiblical form of prayer called contemplative prayer. SCRIPTURES YOU CAN USE: I will give them a heart to know Me, for I am the Lord; and they will be My people, and I will be their God, for they will return to Me with their whole heart. Priscillas friendliness and genuine care for Christian women seem to shine throughevery word she speaks and writes. First,this is a sin. Theres more than one link in the article providing video evidence of this. If you need more examples, simply go to YouTube and type Priscilla Shirer sermon into the search bar. She goes beyond what is written in teaching men, in partnering with false teachers, in teaching unbiblical prayer practices, and in using improper hermeneutics. This is not a new idea. This is a very good reason not to sit under their teaching. BEYOND ENCOURAGEMENT Jesus had employed many graphic analogies using common things that would be familiar to everyone (https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-parables.html). My point to your previous reply to me is that I refer to my bible for instructions from the Holy Spirit as to my role in the body of Christ. Dear Michelle, Jonah 2:10. If you could give me some rightly handled, in context, chapter and verse Scripture to back up your opinions and beliefs, we could talk about it. None. but i will look to the word of God , and i will talk to my pastor. WHAT'S THAT SMELL?: People just spiritually delivered by God usually dont smell good. If you have Priscillas contact information and can get her to talk to me (Ive attempted to communicate with her several times and have been ignored), I will be delighted to discuss this issue and the entirety of this article with her. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. You should learn from us not to go beyond what is written in Scripture. Click here I would suggest beginning with the article entitled Jill in the Pulpit (youll have to scroll down a bit to get to it). Youre more than welcome to join the study if youd like. If you're new or would like to comment, please see the "Welcome- Start Here" tab at the top of this page. Combining elements of Eastern mysticism and New Age spirituality, this practice of emptying the mind and listening for Gods voice is found nowhere in Scripture. John says virtually the same thing, and adds that to partner with false teachers is to take part in their wicked works. Disclaimer: The specific links below are provided and endorsed as evidence pertaining to this article only. Ill let you know how we continue our course of action. What Priscilla and so many others do is pretty much the opposite of a parable. and Serita Jakes (see below). Its very easy to think of Priscilla and think, Whats not to love?. read more, Scripture: such as man can bear. There are two lists of women and two lists of men. #3 Priscilla teaches to listen for Gods voice. There is no way to be saved by putting your faith in a false christ. You must be afraid of some things, or else you will be in trouble. I am not sure that the Gospel Coalition is a credible source. Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Today I would like to preach on the thought astonished beyond measure. http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/10/introducing-priscilla-shirer-and-jesus.html. Holy cow! If your ladies need a doctrinally sound Bible study in the future, theyre welcome to use anything under the Bible studies tab at the top of this page. Part 11 - Matthew 9:32-38 - That's When Miracles Happen! It sounds like you want to be discerning and weigh things carefully. I knew she was his daughter, but Im completely unfamiliar with him or his doctrine. on that if youre interested. How can we be Christians who care? All comments are handled manually, and I do not publish comments which promote false doctrine. In a day and age where any type of hope is needed, especially to the unchurched, I would listen to either Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer any day of the week over the news. God has not instructed women to preach to or instruct men. i listen to Dr. Tony Evans and i love to hear him preach, he is a good pastor and knows the word of God, so i do not understand why all this negativity about his daughter, i agree with the bible about women being pastors, and she is not a pastor according to how much i know about her( i only know about her from war room). read more, Scripture: They both willingly, and without reservation, preach to co-ed groups all the time. In fact, the Bible says the opposite. We have many of these moments through out our physical lives. Joshua 24:1-33, Beyond Sunday is about being a person who is after Gods own heart a person who loves God first and foremost who places their love relationship number one in their life the person who does the One Thing the greatest thing first with God/Jesus love, Beyond Sunday pt. Wow! read more, Scripture: #4b- This is a promotional clip not a scriptural teaching. No, this is a promotional clip in which Priscilla not only makes several incorrect biblical assertions, she uses those incorrect assertions as the foundation of this Bible study she has written. read more, Scripture: But read her He Speaks to Me Bible study for yourself if you want to assess. Our faith is rock solid if we have placed it in Godthe unchanging, perfect, eternal, sovereign One. Its this link: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=18085. She begins most lessons with a story or personal experience, uses these stories to formulate her own spiritual principles, and then adds in a smattering of Bible verses (often out of context) to support her ideas. Yes, hope is needed, and no youre not going to find it on the news, but youre not going to find true hope in Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer, either, because not only can you not find hope in bad news (like the TV news) but you cant find hope in false news either, and thats what they teach. Also, the small sources dont have skin in the book and lecture circuit game. When the Bible says not to do something and you do it anyway, thats a sin. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. Still, knowing his perspective and the fact that hes her father doesnt change the fact that what Priscilla Shirer is doing is wrong. This article is more along the lines of a court case where youre on the jury and Im showing you the evidence of Priscilla Shirer breaking the law. Is she a false teacher? In a day and age where any type of hope is needed, especially to the unchurched, I would listen to either Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer any day of the week over the news. How is this different?. 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. It will be called the good shepherd calls. I wont be publishing comments or answering emails that are answered by this article. Pentecostal. Our new series is designed and I believe inspired by the Holy Spirit to show how Christianity is not just about going to church on Sunday morning. I am always delighted to answer questions from, and help, women who sincerely want help understanding the problems with a false teacher, understanding Scripture, etc., even if those questions are long. Here is a partial list of things that the Bible does not answer definitively: 1. (I dont think she was building doctrine in this promotional video, but I could be wrong.). Priscilla partners and associates with false teachers such as Joyce Meyer, Christine Caine,Joel and Victoria Osteen, Beth Moore, and T.D. Based on Saikowoods earlier post, you are not even familiar with the fact that Dr. Tony Evans is her father. So we both have been grateful ever sense, me personally because; as her husband she is my most important ministry, so besides Church, we do studies both together and private, and then share them with one another, we also pray together and so on, but i know (because i have learned, and it is also true of men) sometimes women need women.(Titus.2:3-4). She does teach and preach to men whether I say she does or not. Warning people away from false teaching is not gossip. There is only ONE requirement for salvation, and that is accepting that Jesus Christs blood took the place of our sin, recognize our sin and confess it, believe that Jesus is Gods son. Jesus taught us the way He wanted us to pray. Romans 8:24 For we The reason I refer people in on line conversations to my articles is so I dont have to regurgitate what Ive already written. *People who blessed us. Id be delighted to hear back from you, Elizabeth. I dont want my readers to believe something just on my (or anyone elses) say so. Grace&Peace in Christ brother travis & sister tori, Thanks so much, Travis. AT THE GOING BEYOND SIMULCAST, YOU CAN EXPECT: Bible teaching from best-selling author Priscilla Shirer To gain tools to study Scripture on your own To engage in worship led by Anthony Evans A powerful group prayer experience The opportunity to make an impact by partnering with a ministry If a big guy writes against a LifeWay person, he might not get anymore invitations. As Christians, the Bible is our authority, so its what the Bible says that matters, and thats what I point women to. The silence he describes in the paragraph titled Line 1 could easily be construed to mean mystical/contemplative (i.e. Go beyond our fears. I think it should be obvious that a face to face discussion is different from a written one, so theres no need to go into that. 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